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Re: [1904.2 TF] Supporting multiple ONUs from remote OAM manager



Glen,

 

Thank you for your response.

 

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Kevin A. Noll

Sr. Director, Systems Architecture

Tibit Communications

kevin.noll@xxxxxxxxxxxx

 

From: Glen Kramer <glen.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, June 8, 2020 at 3:39 PM
To: Kevin Noll <kevin.noll@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "stds-1904-2-TF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <stds-1904-2-TF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Supporting multiple ONUs from remote OAM manager

 

Kevin, Please see below.

 

-Glen

 

From: Kevin Noll [mailto:kevin.noll@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 6:02 AM
To: Glen Kramer <glen.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: stds-1904-wg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; stds-1904-2-TF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Supporting multiple ONUs from remote OAM manager

 

Glen,

 

In our previous email exchanges we discussed how UMT could support a use case in which a remote “OAM Manager” is managing multiple ONUs on an EPON. Reference the attached diagram.

 

In my understanding of OAM, there is a one-to-one relationship between OAM instances. In other words, there must be an OAM instance in the “Manager” for every ONU that is being managed. Further, there is a one-to-one relationship between the MAC and the OAM entity.

[GK: ] Correct

 

If these two statements are correct, then does it correctly follow that the “Manager” would need multiple instances of MAC+OAM+UMT?

[GK: ] Correct

 

If multiple MAC+OAM+UMT instances are required on the “Manager”, then does that mean that the “Manager” needs to have a NIC card for each ONU that is to be managed or could a “virtual” MAC be established for each? If a “virtual MAC” is the solution, then is there a standard to which we can point to support this?

[GK: ] Yes, 802.3ah, 802.3av, and 802.3ca all do this. But they provide physical-layer isolation using LLID, so MACs don’t even see the traffic that belongs to other virtual MACs. For what we need to do, this is an overkill.

 

The 1904.2 standard does not need to explain how to use virtual MACs and it does not need to point to other standards, because implementing these virtual MACs does not impact interoperability between the manager and the managed stations or between the manager and the switch next to it.

 

The model that the standard assumes is just a generic 802 architecture where each OAM client is a separate device (see below). A vendor may implement an optimized product where separate devices shown inside the red box are all merged into a single device. From the outside of that red box, it should impossible to distinguish the optimized implementation from the model. If the model works, then the optimized implementation with virtual MACs also works. Anyone with design experience in 802 architecture will understand what a device should do to behave according to the model, but as standards committees often say – optimization is optional. If a vendor doesn’t know how to implement such an optimization, they should just stick with the model.

 

 

 

 

 

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