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RE: use case



Hi,

 

Thanks for the input. See my initial comments inline.

 

From: Lars Ellegaard [mailto:le@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 8:38 AM
To: Jouni Korhonen; STDS-1904-3-TF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: use case

 

All,

 

The use cases that came out of last meeting show various example deployments and starts to nail down the RoE-functionality.

I find it equally important to explicitly state the assumptions made on the underlying Ethernet network.

No good to design an RoE-function that doesn’t have a network to support it (and vice versa).

 

Examples:

•             What are the networking tools supposed to be used (such as 1588, SyncE, “not” GNSS, 802.1Q or TSN?, etc.)

[Jouni Korhonen]

We’ll assume we got time, sync and a working clock distribution in place. We are not going to state which one. We can at most give a guidance which tools are desirable. The same goes for the rest as well. .1Q is a safe assumption but not all deployments have to rely on its presence.

 

•             What are the parametric requirements of the network (we can start out with qualitative statements)

[Jouni Korhonen]

Give an example what parametric requirements you are after.

 

•             The use case ppt shows one switch here and there – is that the limit? How flexible does the network have to be? What is the delay limit and how is/can this be budgeted?

[Jouni Korhonen]

We do not state a limit for the number of switches.. that will vary & evolve anyway. The delay budget depends on what has been allocated for the front-haul in general (e.g. in CPRI case ~100us one way). How you divide that between nodes on the path is not imho for us to define.  

 

•             Is this a peering or overlay arrangement ? I mean, do we foresee that RoE frames are somehow processed (e.g. monitored) on the path, or is the path completely transparent? The answer to this may impact the type/size of time stamp used.

[Jouni Korhonen]

Good question. I do not have an answer right now.

 

- Jouni

 

Thanks,

Lars

 

(Lars Ellegaard, Princ. Eng,

Vitesse Semiconductor)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: stds-1904-3-tf@xxxxxxxx [mailto:stds-1904-3-tf@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jouni Korhonen
Sent: 17 February 2015 18:05
To: STDS-1904-3-TF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: call#1 minutes

 

Quick minutes and the slides I used attached. Note that I added one more slide to list all function combination without any network drawn into the picture.

 

 

Start:

                ~8AM PST - ~8:46AM PST

 

Present (sorry if I missed someone or mistyped the name):

                Pedro Batista

                Jouni Korhonen

                Bomin Li

                Peter Turnbull

                Philippe Sherier

                Steinar Bjoernstad

                Zakaria Tayq

                Kevin Bross

                Peter Ashwood-Smith

                Satory Matsushima

 

Discussion:

                The call concentrated on agreeing the baseline and assumptions for

                the CPRI mapper and RoE encapsulation/decapsulation functions

                and their placement in the system.        

 

                The attached powerpoint concludes the combinations for functions.

                It should be noted that the mapper also contains the RoE encap/decap

                function. However, the RoE encap/decap can be deployed as standalone

                function (assume that RE and/or REC are the "native" RoE compliant

                devices).

 

                The mapper & encap/decap functions can be part of the switch,

                RE, REC or be standalone frontends or "sidecards".

 

                We aim to define 1:1 translation between CPRI frame format and

                native RoE encapsulation.

 

                CPRI rates 1 to 7 are of interest (because the use 8B/10B line

                coding).

               

Next steps:

 

                * Look into the RoE header itself.

                * Agree on the basics for the AxC to RoE flow mapping e.g. only

                   one AxC per Ethernet packet etc.

                * Agree RoE encapsulated packet properties e.g. whether the

                   payload always has static size (after the flow/link has been

                   established) etc.

                * Study how CPRI rates affect RoE encapsulated packet sizes..

 

 

                Contributions are welcome.. I'll send out the next agenda next week.

 

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Jouni Korhonen, Ph.D, Associate Technical Director CTO Office, Networking, Broadcom Corporation

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