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RE: 1904.4 Consensus call



Dear Colleagues,

I collected a little more info on the DOCSIS and DPoE security:

DOCSIS

The data plane in DOCSIS uses two encryption keys — the data plane key (Traffic Encryption Key) and another to encrypt that key. The key length of the Traffic Encryption Key (TEK) is dependent on the cipher algorithm used and may be 40 bits (40 bit DES), 56 bits (56 bit DES), or 128 bits (CBC mode AES128). The next spec release will include support for 256 bit (CBC mode AES256, but that is a post silicon development add to the spec, and only a MAY normatively, so I suspect will not be implemented any time soon. The TEK is transmitted by the CMTS to the CM and is encrypted using two-key 3DES (so 2x 56-bits; in implementation, that may actually be the same key twice). One thing that is really cool in DOCSIS is a hitless key rotation mechanism that is described in section 10.1 of DOCSIS SECv4.0. 

 

DPoE

DPoE only uses AES128 (and I don't think we specify the mode). So its key length is 128 bits. Key exchange varies depending on whether the DPoE ONU is operating in 1Down, 10Down, or 10Bi. This is defined in section 7 of DPoE SEC v2.0 (I didn't look today at v1.0). I believe in 1Down and 10Down the D-ONU sends the 128 bit session key in the clear to the DPoE system — this is unnecessarily insecure and not a good approach. In 10Bi, the MACSec Key Agreement (MKA) protocol defined in 802.1x is used.

 

Management

There are other key exchanges used to support each of the management protocols, and we've allowed selection of a range of ciphers which use either 128 bit or 256 bit keys.

 

 

From: Glen Kramer <glen.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 6:23 PM
To: Curtis Knittle <C.Knittle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-1904-4-TF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Marek Hajduczenia <mxhajduczenia@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: 1904.4 Consensus call

 

Attached are the slides we used to guide the discussion on the call.

Thank you all who attended for providing feedback

 

Glen

 

From: Curtis Knittle <C.Knittle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 4:03 PM
To: STDS-1904-4-TF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Marek Hajduczenia <mxhajduczenia@xxxxxxxxx>; Glen Kramer <glen.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: 1904.4 Consensus call

 

All,

Reminder that we’re starting the consensus call now.

 

 

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From: Curtis Knittle
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 5:38 PM
To: Curtis Knittle; stds-1904-4-TF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Marek Hajduczenia; Glen Kramer
Subject: 1904.4 Consensus call
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