RE: Few notes after the Louisville April meeting..
I think we made good progress last week. Was a very efficient use of the afternoon. If only most standards meetings progressed so well.
I am happy to have PDF's as a starting point and I certainly don't mind cutting and pasting text, but what would be very helpful is that when a diagram is introduced it would be good if the author of that particular section could draw the diagram or transcribe it into the proper format.
Actually I was going to have a go at the Overview. I will likely just edit it into the current template because its mostly going to be text.
Peter
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From: stds-1904-3-tf@xxxxxxxx [mailto:stds-1904-3-tf@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bross, Kevin
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 3:02 PM
To: Jouni Korhonen; patrick diamond
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Subject: RE: Few notes after the Louisville April meeting..
Jouni,
Thanks for the links. Your last paragraph is in line with what I was thinking. The free format discussion paper may come first, receive discussion and input, and then result in the proponent producing a change request in approximately the right format.
--kb
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From: Jouni Korhonen [mailto:jouni.korhonen@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 3:19 PM
To: patrick diamond; Bross, Kevin
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Subject: RE: Few notes after the Louisville April meeting..
There is actually some stuff already online.
The ANWG ppt template is here: http://www.ieee1904.org/documents/templates/anwg_template.pptx
Guideline for submissions / contributions is here: http://www.ieee1904.org/private/3/tf3_presentproc.shtml
I would still emphasize what Kevin said that the idea proponent needs to be ready to show how his/her contribution would integrate into the working copy. This is vaguely similar what some other SDOs do i.e. have a "discussion paper" (free format) and then the actual "change request" against the working copy.
- Jouni
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> From: patrick diamond [mailto:pdseeker@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 2:57 PM
> To: Bross, Kevin
> Cc: Jouni Korhonen; STDS-1904-3-TF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Few notes after the Louisville April meeting..
>
> Kevin
>
> The idea of separating inputs/ideas into unique doc's is good.
> Given this idea is yours I would assume you have template format ideas
> to propose? If the info formats for several different ideas is equally
> different assessing them against each other is tough and doesn't do any of them justice.
>
> Pat Diamond
>
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 16:36, Bross, Kevin <kevin.bross@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Jouni,
>
> I'm glad we made progress on the skeleton of the document, but I have
> a counter-proposal for standard operating procedure.
>
> If we're just trying to introduce a concept, I could see cases where
> PPT, XLS, or other formats might work to introduce/debate the concept.
> If the idea is accepted, then the advocate for that idea should
> generally be responsible for putting the idea into the template.
>
> I like what you're saying, but I'm suggesting that there's probably a
> predecessor stage where we may want to explicitly have it in a
> different format so that it doesn't look like it's integrated. [I've
> had experiences with other standards groups where competing proposals
> for concepts made to draft specs made it difficult to evaluate the
> concept and compare differing approaches. In those cases, we've found
> that getting the idea reviewed discretely was easier and more
> time-efficient: we don't waste time word-smithing ideas when the
> concept isn't approved.]
>
> Thoughts?
> --kb
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stds-1904-3-tf@xxxxxxxx [mailto:stds-1904-3-tf@xxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Jouni Korhonen
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 10:57 AM
> To: STDS-1904-3-TF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Few notes after the Louisville April meeting..
>
> Folks,
>
> Go and check the opening report at
> http://www.ieee1904.org/3/meeting_archive/2015/04/tf3_1504_opening.pdf
> for the opening report and the 1904.3 timeline. That is pretty aggressive..
>
> Also, for the future contributions/changes/proposal, please use the
> word document template found at
> http://www.ieee1904.org/3/meeting_archive/2015/04/tf3_1504_korhonen_1a.
> docx. This is just a template for drafts and an attempt to make the
> life of the editor easier. The current word document also captures
> nicely most of the discussion we had here at the meeting.
>
> - Jouni
>
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