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RE: RE: Re: Draft v0.3 now available on the website



Hi Chao,

 

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3) If there are many different flows come from a mapper,it's better to modify Figure 4. Are these different flows identified by  flowID which defined in mapper container's parameter?
4) How to describe the relationship between a mapper's flow and an ethernet link's flow? Whether there is such a situation that an ethernet link's flows comes from different mapper

[JiK:] Could you elaborate this a bit further what you mean..

[duchao]  If a mapper's two flows belongs to different ethernet link and the flowID of these two flows are same.

[JiK:] Right. I spent some time going through this again and there are clarifications to be made. Just stating SA+DA pair is too restrictive. This is what I was thinking:

* For the flowIDs to work properly, a mapper or a RoE endpoint instance receiving flows has to be the one “owning” the flowID space for those flows. This would actually be independent of the used links ? not exactly what I stated earlier, since that would only work in a simple deployment case without getting overly complex.

* From a RoE packet sender point of view, destination+flowID pair is unique. From a receiver point of view its own “instance”+flowID is unique. That basically means a single “mapper” or “RoE endpoint” has flowID space of 256 that it can assign to its peers to receive flows (remember that flows are unidirectional).

* Now what constitutes a source or destination address is not straight forward. It can be a MAC address or MAC+VLAN, etc.. as long as one or more of those get RoE packets to a single “mapper” or a “RoE endpoint” instance. I rather associate the destination and source address to a specific mapper or RoE endpoint _instance_ independent of used addressing scheme. To put this into other words, a mapper or RoE endpoint can send RoE packets with overlapping flowIDs to different destinations but can only receive non-overlapping flowIDs.

 

- Jouni


         
          Then for a packetizer, the parameter fPackID  will not be the same with the flowID in ROE head, So it's better to add a parameter to describe the flowID information.

          And for a container's parameter setit's better to change the parameter name "flowID" to "fPackID"

         
         

Parameter

Bits

Name

Default

Description

Identifier

8

.fPackID

(.flowID)

0

Each flow packetizer in a given node has a unique identifier. .flowID is generically used to describe the flow from either a mapper to a packetizer and a depacketizer to a demapper.

Encryption

4

.encypt

0

Selects/enables encryption on a given flow. 0x0 is no encryption

Compression

4

.compress

0

Selects/enables compression on a given flow. 0x0 is no compression

Associated Ethernet link

8

.ethID

0

Identifies the destination Ethernet link

Associated mapper

8

.mapperID

0

Identifies the source mapper

Packet length

16

.lenPack

0

Identifies the amount of data to packetize

Mapper Type

lenPack units

Simple Tunneling

Octets

Structure Agnostic

Basic Frames

Structure aware

Container sets

Native

[///Editors note: TEXT HERE

Ordering information

See 4.4.5 Ordering information (orderingInfo)



       A single (de)mapper[(de)mapperID].[containerID] parameter set is described as below:

{
        .flowID
        .lenSkip
        .lenContainer
        .modulo
        .index
}

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RE: Re: Draft v0.3 now available on the website

 




Hi,
 
Some initial comments inline.
 
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Some questions about the draft

1) For a  Ethernet link , there are some different flows, these flows are identified by the flowid in the ROE head. For two flows belonged to different link
the flowid can be same or not
[JiK:] For a different SA/DA pairs the flowIDs can overlap.

2
For a mapper's output ,there are maybe many different flows or only one flow?
[JiK:] A mapper can output multiple flows. For example a flow per AxC.

3) If there are many different flows come from a mapper,it's better to modify Figure 4. Are these different flows identified by  flowID which defined in mapper container's parameter?

4) How to describe the relationship between a mapper's flow and an ethernet link's flow? Whether there is such a situation that an ethernet link's flows comes from different mapper

[JiK:] Could you elaborate this a bit further what you mean..
 
- Jouni

 



 


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Re: Draft v0.3 now available on the website


 

 




Discussions on the reflector are useful

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Michael Johas Teener - Sr. Technical Director, Broadcom Corp

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On Jan 12, 2016, at 11:40, Glen Kramer <
gkramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 
 
What I want is to have the discussion in advance now that the document is “available”. IMHO there is no reason to defer  bringing up issues or ask for clarifications early ? if there are some .

 
GK: That is fine. You as the TF chair, or the TF altogether, need to decide how to structure this discussion. Do you want people to submit comments? Do you want people to bring it up on conference calls, do you want it to be discussed on the reflector?

Once this is decided, you need to announce it, so that everyone knows how to  participate.

 
Glen

 
- Jouni

 
Once balloting starts, anyone can continue commenting, but the WG members who are in the ballot group also must submit ballots

 
Glen

 
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RE: Draft v0.3 now available on the website

 
Hopes are after Feb meeting.. let’s see.

 
I would not mind seeing those comments already in advance. Discussing issues the early as possible benefits all.

 
- Jouni

 
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RE: Draft v0.3 now available on the website

 
A quick question ? when is the ballot expected to start? I have a few comments but mostly for clarification, so I assume that broader WG discussion would be need to resolve these.

 
Marek

 
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Draft v0.3 now available on the website

 
Hi All,

 
The v0.3 is now available on the website
here (thanks Glen). All/any comments/suggestions are welcome.
 
Cheers,

 
Richard

 
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