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RE: Radio over Ethernet draft PAR for the IEEE 1904 pre-review & discussion



Marek,

For the below comment, which specific part(s) of the text you consider having convoluted/vague statements? We'll have to fix those to avoid confusion and misunderstanding.

- Jouni

> -----Original Message-----
> From: stds-1904-wg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:stds-1904-wg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Marek Hajduczenia
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:38 PM
> To: 'AshwoodsmithPeter'; 'Hesham ElBakoury'; Glen Kramer; 'STDS-1904-
> WG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: Radio over Ethernet draft PAR for the IEEE 1904 pre-review &
> discussion
> 
> I believe the draft PAR proposal should make it then clear what the intent is, and
> avoid convoluted statements. Remember that people reading and voting on it in
> larger IEEE might not have sufficient background to understand all finer details
> of what you're trying to do.
> 
> Being vague does not help getting projects approved.
> 
> Marek
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stds-1904-wg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:stds-1904-wg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> AshwoodsmithPeter
> Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 3:33 PM
> To: AshwoodsmithPeter; Hesham ElBakoury; Glen Kramer; STDS-1904-
> WG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Radio over Ethernet draft PAR for the IEEE 1904 pre-review &
> discussion
> 
> Oh, I should add that this proposal is not looking at making changes to Ethernet
> to support CPRI, simply how the encapsulation would work. The presentation to
> the IEEE 802.1 was to bring up the extremely challenging transport requirements
> which are independent of the encapsulation.
> 
> Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stds-1904-wg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:stds-1904-wg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> AshwoodsmithPeter
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 3:29 PM
> To: Hesham ElBakoury; Glen Kramer; STDS-1904-WG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Radio over Ethernet draft PAR for the IEEE 1904 pre-review &
> discussion
> 
> Thanks Hesham,
> 
> We are happy to answer questions on the proposal. If people are interested I
> made a presentation to the IEEE a few months ago to discuss the
> possibility/requirements. The presentation is available here:
> 
> http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2014/new-ashwood-tsn-cpri-
> fronthau
> l-0714-v03.pdf
> 
> There is a link in there to the CPRI specification which has much more low level
> detail and if you Google things like "C-RAN" and "Fronthaul" there is a lot more
> information out there.
> 
> Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stds-1904-wg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:stds-1904-wg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Hesham ElBakoury
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 3:21 PM
> To: Glen Kramer; STDS-1904-WG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Radio over Ethernet draft PAR for the IEEE 1904 pre-review &
> discussion
> 
> I have attached a clarification on this project from my Colleague Peter
> Ashwoodsmith.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Hesham
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hesham ElBakoury
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 11:42 AM
> To: 'Glen Kramer'; STDS-1904-WG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Radio over Ethernet draft PAR for the IEEE 1904 pre-review &
> discussion
> 
> Glen,
> 
> Is there a presentation that describes what this project aims to achieve (e.g. do
> they want to encapsulate OFDM symbol data in Ethernet frames ?) and why they
> think 1904 is the right standard group to work on this project ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Hesham
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stds-1904-wg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:stds-1904-wg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Glen Kramer
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 11:16 AM
> To: STDS-1904-WG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: FW: Radio over Ethernet draft PAR for the IEEE 1904 pre-review &
> discussion
> 
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> I have received the following request for Radio-over-Ethernet (RoE) project to
> be formed under 1904 WG. The draft PAR is attached.
> We will vote on this PAR at the next meeting. Meanwhile, I encourage everyone
> to review and discuss the draft PAR on the reflector. Feel free to contact PAR
> authors with any questions, or if you want your name to be added as a
> supporter.
> 
> If approved, this PAR will become 1904.3 project.
> 
> Thank you,
> Glen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jouni Korhonen
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 12:00 AM
> To: Glen Kramer
> Cc: Zongying He; Jay (James) Teborek; duanran@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> cuichunfeng@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; liu.qiong@xxxxxxxxxx;
> Patrice.Plante@xxxxxxxxxx; zhang.boshan@xxxxxxxxxx;
> satoru.matsushima@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; tero.mustala@xxxxxxx;
> huangjinri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Peter.AshwoodSmith@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Radio over Ethernet draft PAR for the IEEE 1904 pre-review & discussion
> 
> Dear chair of the IEEE 1904 ANWG,
> 
> Please see the attached draft version of the PAR for Radio over Ethernet
> (RoE) standardization effort that we (the individuals in the CC list) seek to pursue
> under the IEEE 1904 ANWG. We welcome a review and comments from
> 1904 members on the current draft version of the PAR. We intend to present this
> PAR in the forthcoming 1904 meeting in Wuhan to drive our cause, which means
> we also ask for a presentation slot in the forthcoming 1904 meeting agenda.
> 
> Should there be any additional backup material prior the meeting, please let us
> know. If there are any other matters we should be aware of just let us know.
> 
> Best regards,
> 	Jouni (on behalf of the PAR preparation team)
> 
> 
> --
> Jouni Korhonen
> CTO Office, Networking
> Broadcom